J.J. Vallow’s grandmother doesn’t ‘recognize’ so-called ‘cult mom’ smiling outside court

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The grandmother of Joshua “JJ” Vallow – one of Lori Vallow’s two children who disappeared in 2019 before being found dead in 2020 – says she doesn’t “recognize” the so-called “cult mom” in recent photos that show him smiling and outside an Idaho courthouse.

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Lori and her husband, Chad Daybell, allegedly killed two childrenJJ, 7, and Tylee Ryan, 17, circa September 2019, as well as Daybell’s ex-wife, Tammy Daybell, in October 2019. Vallow was also indicted in July 2019 in the murder of her ex-husband. Charles Walo.


“I don’t know who she is. I don’t recognize her. … The face is someone I thought I knew, but I guess I didn’t know her,” said Kay Woodcock, grandmother of JJ and Charles Valo’s sister told Fox News Digital. “I think Charles loved her very much, and you know the saying ‘love is blind’.” Well, apparently, he was too blind to many things, and so much so that it killed him.”

a promising marriage

Woodcock’s brother Charles Vallow agreed with Lori to adopt JJ in 2013, when JJ was one year old. Lori married Charles — her third husband — in 2006, and she was a good mom the first time around.

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On the terms of JJ’s adoption, Vallow agreed that Kay Woodcock and her husband, Larry Woodcock, could be present in the boy’s life as his “Mamaw and Papaw”. The Woodcocks visited their grandson—whom she described as energetic, introverted, and friendly—often, even as Charles and Lori moved around the country throughout their 13 years of marriage.

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“They were like, ‘No problem. Absolutely,’” Kay Woodcock recalled. When Lori made a photo album [J.J.] Was just a year old… with pictures of me in it and Larry in it and our family down here and just different people over here. And she’d open it and say, ‘Who’s this, JJ?’ And he’d look at her, and she’d say, ‘Mama and Papa.’ But, I mean, he insisted on — who we were. I loved that.”

Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell are at the center of a bizarre series of murders within their families. Vallow and Daybell met in 2018 and first appeared together on a podcast discussing theories about the end of the world.

murder spree

According to Kay Woodcock, things “hit the fan” in January 2019.

That’s when Charles Vallow called the police at his home in Arizona at the time to report that his wife and children were missing. Police body-worn camera footage from the evening of January 31, 2019, retrieved by fox 10 phoenixCharles can be heard telling police that he thinks his wife has “lost her mind.”

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He continues to tell the officers that Lori believes he is the “resurrection of God” and thinks he is a “dark spirit”. He says he “doesn’t know what he’s going to do” with his children, who were with Lori at the time.

“I don’t know if she’s going to run away with them, if she’s going to hurt them,” Charles replied, adding that he had spoken to Lori on the phone earlier in the day. She claimed that he told her and her church bishop, “Come take the children. I don’t care what happens to them.”

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Lori went to the police the next day and explicitly told officers that she believed Charles was cheating on her. The following month, Lori left her children with Charles and disappeared for 58 days, according to Woodcock, at which point Charles filed for divorce and custody of their children. Lori soon started dating Chad Daybell.

Lori and Chad Daybell are accused of murdering JJ Vallow, left, 7, and Tylee Ryan, 17, in 2019.

In July 2019, Lori’s brother, Alex Cox, allegedly shot and killed Charles Vallow in Arizona, claiming self-defense. Two months later, in September 2019, Tilley and JJ go missing for months. Cox died in December 2019 following an apparent blood clot.

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Police say Lori and Chad Daybell lied about Tilley and JJ’s whereabouts and then moved to Hawaii — before the children’s bodies were found buried on Daybell’s property in rural Idaho in June 2020.

warning signs

But before the confusing string of murders unfolded, Kay Woodcock says her husband noticed a change in Lori’s behavior.

Lori Vallow Daybell, 49, is shown next to her attorney, and her most recent husband, Chad Daybell, 54, accused of murdering Vallow Daybell's two children and collecting Social Security benefits in his name after her death Is charged.  In a recent court filing, Vallow claims she was not present when he died.

“Larry is very comfortable, and back in 2017, and I don’t know what it was specifically, he said, ‘Something’s wrong.’ And I was like, ‘What do you mean, something’s wrong?’ She said, ‘There’s something wrong with Lori. I don’t know what it is, but something is going on between her and Charles.’ And I said, ‘No, you’re just imagining it,’” Kay explained.

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But when Kay’s mother passed away in 2018, Lori didn’t attend the funeral.

“To me, that was a slap in the face,” Kay said.

Lori Vallow Daybell smiles outside an Idaho courthouse on Aug. 16, 2022.

In 2018, while Charles and Lori lived in Hawaii, Lori’s ex-husband and Tilley’s father, Joseph Ryan, died of a heart attack. When Kay went to visit the Valois in Hawaii that year, she recalled to Lori how Ryan was “evil” and “deserved to be dead”. K did not know Ryan and assumed he was “a bad guy” at the time.

Justice expected after four years

Fremont County Judge Steven Boyce issued a recent order in April to proceed with Lori and Daybell’s joint murder trial, despite Daybell’s request to further delay the trial for more time to analyze the evidence. The trial has been delayed several times since initially scheduled for 2021 due to a number of different factors, including Lowry’s eligibility and the coronavirus pandemic.

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But the Woodcocks say they have waited for justice for JJ, Tilley and Charles since the day in January 2019, when Lori first disappeared and left her children with Charles.

The Woodcocks say they have waited for justice for JJ, Tilley and Charles since the day in January 2019 that Lori first disappeared and left her children with Charles.

“I’ll be devastated if it doesn’t happen. … We’ve just learned to go with the flow because being mad or being in a hurry doesn’t do any good. But I have high hopes for it, and I hope it Will succeed,” said K.

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Lori’s defense attorney, John Tomas, argued during a January 19 hearing that she “never actually participated in or knew about any of these events.”

K believes that “he is just talking to and talking to her defense attorney.”

Kay and Larry Woodcock eagerly await access to JJ's remains after the April trial so that they can give him a proper service and burial.

“I don’t know what the prosecution has. All I know is they have a mountain of evidence,” she said. “So, you know, Larry and I haven’t really been told the details about anything. … And it’s not on our radar to ask because we’re dealing with the loss ourselves and then what happened.” Getting angry again. I can only imagine right now [the details] Terrible when we are near them. A time will come for that, and it hasn’t happened yet.”

Kay and Larry eagerly await access to JJ’s remains after the April trial so that they can give him a proper service and burial.

J.J. Vallow’s grandmother doesn’t ‘recognize’ so-called ‘cult mom’ smiling outside court

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